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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Well, it is a continuation of a legacy scheme. There is no doubt about that, but it is a legacy scheme that works for producer organisations in Scotland.

There is some confusion about what the purpose of the scheme actually is. It is designed to allow smaller producers to get together and become a producer organisation. That allows them to get access to funding that would make them more viable and to achieve environmental benefits—there are producers that, as a result of being part of a PO, have gone from using peat to using coir. There are things that producers can do as part of a scheme that they would not be able to do individually.

The purpose of the SSI is to protect that funding in Scotland, because there is now the potential for producer organisation members in English schemes to join Scottish schemes and therefore start to erode that budget. The purpose of the SSI is to protect the budget and the integrity of the scheme for Scottish growers only. I make no apology for that.

On how we get funding to smaller producers, we are actively looking at how we can support smaller producers through other legislation. The SSI is specifically about the continuation of the scheme, which is vitally important.

I have met members of the producer organisations, and, in all the early conversations that I had with them, I emphasised how important the scheme is to their ability to keep on adapting and developing. They live in an incredibly competitive marketplace, so they have to have all the tools available to them to allow them to be as competitive as possible, while looking at how they can reduce emissions and be more environmentally friendly.

It is a really good scheme, and it works for our producers. That is why we should really want to protect it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

I think that they run until 2028, but I will let Debbie Kessell talk about the technical aspects.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

It might well be, but that is not what we are doing. We are protecting a system that currently works.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

I would suggest that producer organisations collaborating is probably more important now than ever. There is far greater need for far more collaboration across all areas of the sector, whether that is fruit and veg—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

I am not quite sure in which direction you are trying to take that question. You will have to rephrase it for me.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Yes, we could have.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

No, I do not.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

As Alasdair Allan pointed out, if we do not pass the SSI and we get a large number of POs wanting to join the system in Scotland, how much money will that take out of the budget? We have no mechanism, because it was reserved by the UK Government back down to England so that it would make the decisions about what the criteria were. That would then impact our overall budget for the agricultural system.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

The purpose of the pilot is to give us some understanding of the things that people are looking for. I have actively got officials and stakeholders considering how we can put in better support to ensure that we get the resilience that Ariane Burgess raised with me at the start of the meeting.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jim Fairlie

Yes. There is the potential that producers growing in England could be POs in Scotland.