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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 November 2024
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

A number of members want to come back in with supplementary questions, so we might have to work on for another five minutes or so, if that fits for you, Mr Brown.

I have a practical question. How many members does the association have at the moment?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

John Swinney, do you want to come in with a supplementary question, or are you happy to wait?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Do people become members of the association on a voluntary basis?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Just for my understanding, can you outline the difference between the Scottish Solicitors Bar Association and local bar associations? What are their roles and functions?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

John Swinney has a brief final question.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Good afternoon, and welcome to the sixth meeting in 2024 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have apologies from Pauline McNeill.

I welcome Simon Brown, vice-president of the Scottish Solicitors Bar Association, and thank him for taking the time to attend today’s meeting, which is very much appreciated.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will stay on the topic of rape myths and juries. You say in your submission that there is no evidence that juries act on those myths or that they fail to try the accused on the basis of the evidence presented. Will you please expand on why your members believe that to be the case? What evidence are you referring to?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I have a final question on rape myths. I am sure that your members have followed the evidence that the committee has taken on rape myths, not just in committee meetings but in written submissions and in research that we are aware of. A strong body of evidence appears to suggest that rape myths exist and are problematic. As you will understand, we are working with a broad church of views. Given the evidence that we have received—that there is such a thing as rape myths—what would be your members’ position on what the committee should consider in addressing that issue?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Okay. You might not know this off the top of your head, but how many criminal defence lawyers are there in Scotland?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That is helpful background information.

I will bring in Sharon Dowey and then Russell Findlay. I ask you to make your questions fairly succinct.