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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 November 2024
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I am conscious that this is a really important discussion, but we would like to work through quite a lot of themes, so I would be grateful if people kept their questions and answers as succinct as possible.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

We have less than half an hour left, so we will move on to questions about violence against women and girls.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Katy Clark would like to come in, and then we will move on to look at issues around organised crime. We will stay with Katy for that, as I know that she is interested in asking some questions on that area.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I would like to move on to consider the prison estate. I will bring in Jamie Greene first, and I will then ask a couple of questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Teresa Medhurst is keen to come in on that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I am most interested in the first part. What adaptations can be made in the short term to alleviate some of the issues that we know prison and healthcare staff face when they are caring for people who perhaps have additional health, physical capacity or general wellbeing needs?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I would like to move on to issues around purposeful activity—Collette Stevenson wants to come in on that. I will then bring Pauline McNeill back in to look at issues around drugs.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I will draw this evidence session to a close. Thank you both for coming along today. If there are additional bits of information that you would care to share with the committee in writing, please do so.

I endorse the comments made by members today to acknowledge the work that all prison staff have been involved in, particularly during Covid—and, hopefully, coming out of it. We very much appreciate it. Thank you very much for attending today.

That concludes the public part of the meeting. Our next meeting will be on Wednesday 10 November, when we will complete our pre-budget scrutiny and hear from the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans.

12:45 Meeting continued in private until 13:05.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that is helpful.

I will stick with recruitment. Prosecution is a career choice for many, and I am interested in the comments from Fiona Eadie, in the FDA union submission, about the important role that more experienced staff have in mentoring and supervising younger, less experienced solicitors or procurators fiscal who are coming through the system. That issue does not arise solely in the court system, of course, but nonetheless I am interested in its impact there.

What do you see as the priorities, in the context of mentoring and supervision, in enabling younger, less experienced staff to learn on the job and build up their own experience while allowing more experienced and senior staff to manage their own casework alongside fulfilling that important role? Again, I am looking at the issue from a budgetary point of view, and I would be interested to know what you see as options in the court system for balancing those elements as well as possible.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 3 November 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Bearing in mind that I am keen to keep the session on track around budget scrutiny, does Mr O’Donnell have anything to add to that?