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David, do you want to comment on that?

May I intervene at that point? We are enjoying and finding significant value in your comprehensive answers, but I am mindful of time, and I have four members who want to come in. I hate cutting you off.

Just on the point about under-18s that you covered earlier, it is worth noting that the next bill that committee will deal with is the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill. There is a presumption in it to send under-18s to secure care and not prison. Obviously, we will look more closely at that issue down the line.

I am sure that we could continue for much longer, but I will have to bring the session to a close. I thank the witnesses. It has been an invaluable session.

We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave, and we will have a quick comfort break.

There will probably be some more questions on that issue.

I will bring in Russell Findlay. There is a lot to cover, so I ask for succinct questions and answers. That would be appreciated.

On that plea from our colleagues, I thank you all for your attendance. It has been a very interesting session. We will have a very short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave.

We will move straight on to Jamie Greene. A number of other members want to come in.

Fulton MacGregor wanted to come in with a question.

Stuart, do you want to come in?