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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 November 2024
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Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much. Before I bring in other members, I will ask a general question about the expectation around timescales. There was one key recommendation and a number of other recommendations. Given that the recommendations apply across a system rather than across just one organisation, was there an expectation of how long might be considered reasonable for the recommendations to be implemented?

Criminal Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 22nd meeting in 2023 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received apologies from Katy Clark.

Our first item of business is to welcome Sharon Dowey to her first meeting of the committee. I look forward to working with her. I invite her to declare any interests that are relevant to the committee’s remit.

Criminal Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests in relation to agenda item 7, which is our approach to the Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill, albeit that we will discuss it in private. I am a former police officer.

Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I know that members will be looking more deeply into that aspect.

I am keen for our session to focus on progress on the recommendations, but it might be helpful to step back a bit first. As you said, given the size of the prison population in Scotland, it is, sadly, inevitable that there will be some deaths in the prison estate. It might be helpful if you were to outline a bit of context regarding the experience of mortality in prisons. What are the common underlying reasons, for example?

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is to review the Scottish Government’s response to our post-legislative inquiry on the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018. I refer members to paper 3. I invite members to come in with any comments or points that they would like to make on the Scottish Government’s response, or to give any suggestions for further follow up.

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I am happy to go back and stress that we are keen to ensure that that issue is incorporated in the report.

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Are you referring to paragraph 3 in the paper?

Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We are just about up to time. I will stay with the key recommendation on an additional independent review process. I note in the review report the context around the needs of families, which we have discussed robustly this morning. I noticed in the review that there was reference to the fact that that change—creating another independent process—

“would bring Scotland into line with practice in other jurisdictions including England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.”

I know that it is not just a case of taking a model from somewhere else and slotting it into our policies and processes, but I wonder whether any work was done to look at that practice and whether there was a feeling that there was good learning from that that could realistically form part of a new process in Scotland—bearing in mind what we have discussed about the other option of, potentially, looking at the existing processes and making some changes to them?

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Your question is about the broader issue of implementation of the legislation; we know that there have been challenges in and delays to the timescales. I understand that the minister is aware that we maintain an interest in that and has undertaken to keep the committee informed—specifically about the issues that you have raised, of firework control zones and the licensing scheme. I know that members are very interested in those matters but, for today, I am interested in ensuring that members are content with the response that we have received on the specific points that we raised in connection with football banning orders and the actions of an individual on release from being detained by police after being found to be in possession of a pyrotechnic device.

I am quite keen to maintain that focus, but I absolutely understand the points that Russell Findlay has made, which are, I think, reflected around the room.

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I cannot answer that off the top of my head.