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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

Thank you, cabinet secretary, and thanks to James Dornan for his question.

In the summer, I spent some time with a group providing peer support to people living with long Covid. I and my officials found that incredibly helpful, and we listened to the concerns that were being raised. What the cabinet secretary talked about and the fact that we have allowed health boards to ensure that they provide the services that are most important for the people who live in their vicinity was passed on to the group but it was helpful for me to hear what they said.

In the next couple of weeks, I have two meetings. One is with Long Covid Scotland, and the other is with children and families who have been affected by long Covid. That is important for informing the work as we go forward.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

Stage 3 of the bill is coming up in the next couple of weeks. That will provide an opportunity for us to take cognisance of what you have said and to look at how we incorporate it in the debate. I am sure that Ms Mochan will cover the issue in the contributions that she makes in that debate.

10:00  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

I had a lot of discussions on such issues with my officials over the summer. We will do a consultation in the autumn on foods that are high in fat, sugar or salt, and we are consulting on which foods to concentrate on—crisps, confectionery, cakes and other foods. We will probably also consult on promotions, including meal deals, unlimited refills and location of products in stores. We will consider all those things. Over the summer when I was shopping, at the end of my shopping I got a voucher for a cake, and I thought, “Why didn’t I have the option of a voucher for a banana?” We are thinking about things such as that.

Emma Harper commented on the fact that rather than introduce a bill, we are producing regulations. We believe that that will allow us to move swiftly and efficiently. Circumstances changed, which allowed us to bring in regulations as opposed to a bill, and we are working at pace on the timescales.

I know the two publications on ultraprocessed foods that Emma Harper mentioned. There have also been a number of articles in newspapers on the topic, and there are a number of podcasts about ultraprocessed foods. I was in a meeting last week with Food Standards Scotland and Public Health Scotland at which I raised the issue as something on which I would like to get more information. We look at evidence from the scientific advisory committee on nutrition, but there is currently no specific evidence on ultraprocessed foods. The Scottish Government bases decisions and policies on evidence. We need to carry out further engagement and consultation on ultraprocessed foods. I have asked my officials to look at that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

As you will know, the tobacco action plan will come out this autumn, and it absolutely will consider vapes and where they are in shops. As you have, I have heard stories about the experiences of mothers in supermarkets, where vapes are at eye level for children and have bright colours that attract them. We are very aware of that situation, and it will be covered in the tobacco action plan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

That is a fair question. When I was visiting a school in my constituency, a teacher came out with eight brightly coloured vapes in her hand.

I absolutely agree that we are in a very difficult situation. As you have rightly pointed out, it is already illegal to sell vapes to under-18s. We have discussed that with our local authorities to ensure that they recognise that. However, as I mentioned to Ms Mackay, the tobacco action plan is coming out this year.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

That is a good suggestion, Ms Harper, and I will take it away.

09:30  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

I was in Elgin during the summer, which was the first place where I had come across the daily mile. People at the health centre there spoke about the importance of exercise, which is just as important as what we eat. Staff at the health centre explained how they are supporting families, and not only with the daily mile. People aged from eight months to 80 are attending the health centre to get support with fitness, whether through the daily mile or something more physical such as swimming or weight training. That is really important.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

I heard from people who live with long Covid that there needs to be more public awareness of the conditions that they live with. I heard from one gentleman in his early 70s who had been fit and used to go out walking a lot. It now takes him more than half an hour to walk half a mile.

There is a need for better knowledge on the part of the wider public about the impacts of long Covid. I was pleased that I had officials with me on that visit and will have them with me in my meetings next week and the following week. That means that they have heard about that need, and I am speaking to them about how we can improve awareness of long Covid in the population.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

That is a really important question that was highlighted to me yesterday when I heard from a mother whose son had been described as “fat” and “obese,” which had given him a dreadful lack of confidence.

You are absolutely right that language is incredibly important, as is how we work with local authorities, schools and other public bodies to ensure that the message is spread across our services. One example is the good food nation plan, which talks about ensuring that children have the opportunity to eat good healthy food. I saw that in operation last week at a primary school in Edinburgh, where they were talking about breakfast and healthy foods, such as Weetabix and fresh fruit. There is a whole conversation to be had around language, which is important in education centres as well as across the general public. We are very cognisant of that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Jenni Minto

We were clear that payment reform was the first step on the journey towards looking at dentistry services. We will collaborate with the BDA and more widely with other dentists on further work on governance and workforce.

I have asked for, and we are arranging, a meeting on dentistry with representatives from the other four UK nations. The issue affects not only Scotland; there are problems with dentistry services across the whole of the UK, partly as the result of a reduction in the number of new dentists coming in. That has happened for two reasons. About 160 student dentists lost a whole year of study because of the pandemic, and then Brexit left us asking how we could encourage dentists from across the world to come to the UK, and to Scotland in particular. A lot of work is being done on that.

I am pleased to say that 183 or 184 students are studying dentistry this year and that will help to move things forward. A lot of work has been done with the directors of dentistry in each of the health board areas to find ways to support dentists who are coming in, specifically in rural health board areas where work similar to that designed to attract GPs is being done. All that work is incredibly positive. My officials and I are engaging with dentists to make progress on it.