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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 January 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

All education and learning has to be continuous. I do not think that, in any profession or walk of life, you hit a door where you stop learning. I can speak personally to that experience in my previous career and in this role. Education and learning are important, which is why it is important that we see how the work that is being done in Grampian on e-learning can be rolled out.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

Thank you for inviting me and for considering the important issue of HIV stigma.

HIV stigma remains a barrier to accessing treatment and care and it puts people at risk, but, ultimately, we aim to build a Scotland in which everyone is treated with kindness, dignity and respect.

This is about real people who lead real lives. The Terrence Higgins Trust anti-stigma campaign showed some of the harms that can be caused by stigma. Although it was a proud moment to fund and support such a hard-hitting campaign, I am not proud that HIV stigma remains. We are committed to working to tackle that. We must continue to remember that the “H” in HIV stands for “human”, and put people at the centre of everything that we do.

In 2021, we committed to eliminating the transmission of HIV in Scotland by 2030, and I am pleased to announce that our HIV transmission elimination delivery plan was published today. It focuses the actions that we will take to deliver on the 22 recommendations that were presented to us on 1 December 2022 as part of the HIV transmission elimination proposal.

We worked with a wide range of stakeholders to develop the plan, and many of the actions in it are already well under way. We have taken the time to ensure that the plan that we have published today has the support of the sector, is deliverable and achievable and will take us closer to our transmission elimination goal.

The plan takes us up to 2026, at which point it will be important to take stock again and adjust our focus as we aim toward 2030. The delivery plan focuses on preventing new cases of HIV and reducing stigma is an important part of that. However, it is also important that we continue to support those who are living with HIV. Although we aim to eliminate HIV transmission by 2030, we will continue to care for those who are living with the virus long after that.

The delivery plan complements the wider aims of the “Sexual health and blood borne virus action plan” that was published in November 2023, which aims to eliminate new HIV transmissions and to support people who are living with HIV to

“lead longer, healthier lives, with a good quality of life”

in

“a society where the attitudes of individuals, the public, professionals and the media in Scotland towards sexual health and blood borne viruses are positive, non-stigmatising and supportive.”

Both those outcomes have remained a key focus of our blood-borne virus work in the past 10 years and it is right they continue to be the anchor points for our work. However, the Scottish Government alone cannot deliver them; it takes the support and co-operation of our national health service partners, third sector colleagues, academia, industry and the general public. We continue to work with our partners to break down barriers to testing and treatment, including by funding opt-out testing pilots in three accident and emergency departments, funding Terrence Higgins Trust to offer postal and community-based HIV testing and working with Public Health Scotland to develop online postal self-sampling for all sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

We continue to fund Waverley Care to deliver fast-track cities—an intervention that ensures that the voices of people living with HIV are engaged so that they have a say in shaping local and national priorities.

It is important that we reflect what Professor Claudia Estcourt said at the committee’s meeting on 12 March:

“Scotland is not England-lite”—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 12 March 2023; c12]

It is therefore vital that our interventions and actions address the needs of our population, our demographic and our epidemic. Considerable progress has been made in reducing the number new cases of HIV in Scotland. As we move towards our transmission elimination goal, we must do what is right for those who are living with HIV or those who contract HIV in Scotland.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

That is an important area. As I said, we do not stand still. We must keep learning and refreshing. The other important area that was brought out in the evidence is that the education should be wider than just HIV. It is much more about people’s sexual health. In one of the schools in my constituency, some of the fifth and sixth year girls have taken that on board. They are looking at the best way for them to get educated, whether it is in a school environment or at their general practice. There is a real buy-in for this, not only from teachers but from pupils.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

The monitoring of the plan is incredibly important. There are many different groups and acronyms. We now have a group that is called HIV-TEDI.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

That group will oversee the introduction of the primary, secondary and tertiary elements of the plan. Our relationship with Public Health Scotland is also important because of the additional information that it can provide us with and the additional work that it will do to support the plan. That is such a collaborative way forward; PHS is always checking what we are doing. Also, because our relationship with communities is so close, they will be quick to say that perhaps we need to re-emphasise certain aspects.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

I have already highlighted the work that is happening in Grampian for the wider health and social care partnership. I ask Rebekah Carton whether she wishes to add anything on that aspect.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

With regard to the three opt-out pilots, no, I do not, but I am happy to share feedback with you once we get that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

Thank you for that question, which is really important. Everyone here recognises the pressure that the Scottish Government’s budget is under. However, as I said earlier, we have set aside £1.7 million to support the plan in the next financial year. It is my job, with my critical friends, to ensure that our funding allocation is directed in the right way.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

HIV: Addressing Stigma and Eliminating Transmission

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Jenni Minto

I do, absolutely. That came across in the committee’s evidence sessions. As I watched them, I could see the importance of having that anecdotal evidence. I appreciate that it is not data, but it adds to the data and makes it more accessible. That is why I am pleased that Public Health Scotland has appointed the co-ordinator whom I mentioned. I am also pleased about the collaboration that is happening across the sector. As Dr Clutterbuck said in his evidence, that is not new. In fact, this area of medicine has been a trailblazer in recognising the importance of various elements working together. The health boards, and indeed the whole of the health sector, can look at that.

I understand people’s frustration. Am I working hard to move things on? Yes, I am. Further, I hugely respect the work that was done prior to my taking on this role.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Jenni Minto

Clearly, if we are talking about a new building, there would be a timeline for that, which would allow for consultation. However, I hear what you say about what would happen if we planned to quickly extend or reduce a zone. Therefore, I am very happy to come back to the committee on that. We also need to recognise that it is important to ensure, when changing a zone, that people who are holding vigils, as well as those who are seeking services, are made aware quickly.