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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 36th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

I will bring in Miles Briggs to ask a supplementary question and then to lead us on to the next set of questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

I thank the witnesses for providing evidence this morning. It has been very helpful, especially in advance of our next session. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow us to set up for our next panel.

09:54 Meeting suspended.  

10:00 On resuming—  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Thank you. We will move on to questions, starting with Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Theme 6 is on error and fraud. I will bring in Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Once again, I thank the panel for attending this morning and for giving us your evidence. We will now move into private session.

11:15 Meeting continued in private until 11:25.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Our next item is an evidence session on the Scottish Government’s 2023-24 budget with the Scottish Fiscal Commission. I welcome to the meeting Professor Graeme Roy, Professor David Ulph and Michael Davidson, who is the SFC’s head of social security and public funding. Thank you very much for accepting the committee’s invitation.

There are a few points to mention about the format of the meeting before we begin. Members who are attending remotely, please wait until I say your name before speaking. Colleagues who are in the room should indicate to me or the clerk if they wish to ask a supplementary question, and committee members who are online should use the chat box or the WhatsApp group. Before we move to questions, I invite Graeme Roy to make opening remarks.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Thank you very much. We move straight to questions from members. Paul McLennan will kick us off.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Jeremy Balfour has a supplementary question on that topic.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Good morning, and welcome to the 35th meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. Our only business this morning is the consideration of a statutory instrument, the draft Winter Heating Assistance (Low Income) Scotland Regulations 2023.

At last week’s meeting—ahead of our consideration of the regulations—we took evidence from Energy Action Scotland and the Scottish Commission on Social Security about winter heating payments.

I welcome Ben Macpherson MSP, the Minister for Social Security and Local Government. I also welcome Scottish Government officials: Daniel Blaikie, a solicitor for the Scottish Government, who joins us in the room; and Owen Allen, winter heating benefits policy manager, and Angela Keane, service manager, winter benefits, who join us remotely. Hello all, and thank you for attending.

I will mention a few points about the format of the meeting. Angela and Owen, who are online, please allow our broadcasting colleagues a few seconds to turn on your microphone before you start to speak, if the minister wishes to bring you in. Members who are attending remotely, please wait until I say your name before speaking. If colleagues in the room wish to ask a supplementary question, they should indicate that to me or to the clerk; members online should use the chat box or the WhatsApp group.

The instrument has been laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that the Parliament must approve it before it comes into force. Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited at the next agenda item to consider a motion to approve the instrument.

I remind everyone that Scottish Government officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.