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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

Can any detail be provided on how the process of engagement between OSCR and charities that have failed to submit accounts will work? Equally, can any assurance be provided that, when charities have not submitted accounts because of a lack of resources, skills or knowledge, OSCR will provide appropriate support to seek to avoid them being removed from the register when there is a willingness to comply but an inability to do so?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

Good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2023 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. We have received apologies from James Dornan, and I welcome Evelyn Tweed as a committee substitute.

Before we move to our first item of business, I advise members that the committee has received responses to its letters concerning warrants to install prepayment meters. Those letters have been published in the correspondence section of the committee’s website, and the committee will consider next steps as part of its work programme.

Our main item of business today is our final evidence session on the Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill. The bill aims to strengthen and update the current legislative framework for charities by increasing transparency and accountability. It also aims to improve the powers of the Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator and to bring Scottish charity legislation up to date with certain key aspects of regulation in England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

In our previous two meetings, we heard from witnesses representing charities, charity regulation, law, academia, accountancy and audit. We conclude our evidence sessions today by hearing from Shona Robison, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government. I welcome the cabinet secretary and the Scottish Government officials who are joining us today. They are Caroline Monk, who is the head of charity law; Melissa Smith, who is the charity law policy manager; and Rebecca Reid and Megan Stefaniak, who are both solicitors.

I will make a couple of quick points about the format of the meeting before we begin. Members who are attending remotely should wait until I say their name before they speak. Colleagues who are in the room and wish to ask supplementary questions should indicate that to me or to the clerks. Members who are joining us online should use the chat box or WhatsApp to indicate that.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

We move back to questions from the deputy convener, Emma Roddick.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

Absolutely. Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

I have a final question. Is the Scottish Government committed to further consideration of legislative changes to support the reorganisation of statutory charities? We have seen wide support for that in the evidence that we have taken so far.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

You have touched on the topic of my next question. We have discussed communication and engagement, and there will have to be allowance for the potential development of new digital tools to help with the collection of data and to minimise any administrative burden on charities. Are discussions with OSCR on whether that is appropriate on-going?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

I have one final question on this theme. What are your views on how OSCR might communicate with parent charities if there are issues with individual charities not submitting accounts? For example, would it be appropriate for OSCR to communicate with a church body if there were issues with a specific church?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

Finally, on that point, does the cabinet secretary believe that, although costs for individual charities might be minor, they could add up to a significant sum across the sector as a whole?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

Given that time allows, I will return to theme 1 of our committee paper, which is on the wider review of the charity sector. I would be grateful if you would confirm a few points on that topic. When do you anticipate the proposed wider review taking place and over what timescale?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2023

Natalie Don-Innes

We move to our final theme, on the financial implications of the bill. Does the cabinet secretary anticipate that OSCR will be able to absorb the additional responsibilities within its existing budget, or will additional resources be required?