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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
The cut-off date has not been formalised yet, but it will be. We have said that, for safeguarding children, we have allowed the age to go up to 19 for entry into secure care centres. We are saying 17 and a half at the moment, but the cut-off date is not yet formalised.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
As I am very new to the role, that is not a conversation that I have had. I will pass over to my officials to speak about that.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
Currently, trained practitioners and professionals are based in secure care centres, and specialists can be brought in to respond to the needs of children in their care. At the moment, there are no plans to change the legislation on access to health professionals, but officials are working with mental health colleagues to consider the specialist healthcare needs that many children in secure care might have and what additional support could be made available in the community. As I said, we will continue to monitor that throughout the bill’s passage and beyond.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
That is a good point. I know that the committee has taken evidence that has raised concerns about capacity in the children’s hearings system. We expect that there could be up to 2,400 hearings, but we are working with the key stakeholders to ensure that capacity is in place.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
It is feasible. We would not be carrying out the changes if they were not feasible. As I said, Children’s Hearings Scotland has said that it can cope with increasing capacity. The evidence is there for Mr Kerr.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
In terms of safeguards, as you mentioned?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
Absolutely—this is on-going work. The full details of what we currently have are set out in the financial memorandum. I will pass over to my official to go through some of that in more detail.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
Yes. As I said, we are currently considering that as we take the bill forward.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
I am sorry—how do my justice colleagues feel about what?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 3 May 2023
Natalie Don-Innes
As I said, we are committed to incorporating the UNCRC, which defines a child as under 18. Obviously, in Scotland, there are a number of definitions of a child, and there are age-based laws that allow, for example, 16-year-olds to live independently, but complexity does not necessarily mean incoherence.
In some instances it can be appropriate to treat young people in the same way as adults, and that will strengthen their rights, but in other contexts, such as diverging from the criminal justice system, which is what we are discussing here, treating young people in a different way from adults will strengthen their rights. Treating them in this way within the criminal justice system gives them the best chance of rehabilitation.