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Thank you, Adam. I am conscious of the time, so that is me finished.

The committee is keen to find out how we monitor NPF4 over the next few years. Given that it is a living document, what key metrics should we be looking at? The key question is this: how will the Government or the directorate monitor all this and review the policy itself, particularly over the next 10 years? We have seen how much things have changed in the past 10 years. How can we monitor NPF4 to ensure that it really is a living document? The committee is keen to consider what, from the Government’s point of view, the key metrics are that we will be looking at over the coming years. Indeed, I think that we have raised that issue with Andy Miller before.

Thanks for that.

Convener, I have one more question, which is on a specific issue. As you will probably be aware, the issue of out-of-town developments and drive-throughs, which has been in the press, was raised last week, and I am just looking for a bit of clarity on that. I do not know whether this is a question for you, minister, or for Andy Miller or Fiona Simpson, but what does the policy state in that respect? The press has been quite confusing on that, but the issue has, I think, been raised with all of us on certain occasions.

Thank you, Sophie. I have no further questions, convener.

I will maybe take that up with you afterwards.

I do not know whether anybody else wants to come in on that; it is a really important part of the process. We have talked about the framework and the next stage.

Before you do so, Fiona, I will just say that this is not just on Government—I think that there is an emphasis in local development plans on having the same process, too. As you have said, minister, NPF4 is the framework, but local delivery is mostly done through the local authorities. I think that there is some element of that in the local development plans.

You mentioned the Scottish Government, but does that include Social Security Scotland? Is it involved in the discussions at those meetings?

Thank you for that extensive answer.

The next question moves on from that slightly and is more about how you evaluate service provision. Emily, you talked about involvement with those who have lived experience, and I want to focus on those who have that lived experience being part of the evaluation process. I will come to Emily first and perhaps Jonathan Senker will want to come in after that.

Jonathan, do you want to come in on that?