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That point about shared services is a really important one to make.

Derek, from a Scottish Enterprise point of view, looking at the issue from a much broader national base, how do you involve the third sector?

Eann Sinclair, you are from another part of the country—the remote HIE area. What is your experience in that regard?

Good morning, panellists. Last week, Dr Oliver Escobar of the University of Edinburgh mentioned the need for community anchor organisations to be included as community partners. He mentioned housing associations and development trusts. I will come to Pauline Smith first on this. To what extent is that happening across the country now, and what can be done to improve the situation in the future? I used to chair the community planning partnership when I was on East Lothian Council, and, at times, I used to bring in some of the development trusts.

How do you find involvement when it comes to development trusts? Is it mixed?

Thank you. I will move on to the next question.

I come to Caroline Warburton. You mentioned the thematic group and, particularly in relation to Covid, the connected economy group. As a councillor, I was part of that group, and the approach worked. Is that approach used across the rest of Scotland, or, like Pauline Smith, do you find that it is mixed? I know that there needs to be variability in different parts of the country, but one of the key lessons for us is to pick up on what works and what could work and to share best practice. Across the rest of Scotland, what is your involvement in the thematic groups and at community planning board level?

I fully agree with the points that you have made. That takes me to my next question, which is about the role that CPPs should have in delivering community wealth-building aspirations—your answer touched on that. It seems as though those groups hold the local community together to a certain extent. You have kind of answered the question about what role CPPs should play in helping to deliver that, so it was a great lead-in.

I will ask Stephen Wood and Mark McAteer for their thoughts on that question. Mark, you touched on the kind of work that you do to embed the community wealth building that goes on. Can you build on that?

Does Stephen Wood or Pauline Smith have anything to add?

That is a good point.

Thank you.