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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 February 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

—and of the balance in terms of regulations hitting small businesses. I get the point.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

I will come to Jill in a moment, but I want first to raise one other point that came through when we went to the Salvesen Mindroom Centre. We are talking about those who are in employment, but the number of people who have neurodiversity and who end up in employment is low. How do we ensure that employers take cognisance of that and are making reasonable adjustments in their selection processes? If the employer does not do that, the individual is already at a disadvantage before they get to the interview stage. I think that that is a really important point. How do we ensure that people who are neurodiverse have the same employment opportunities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

Jason, you have touched on the issue of whether the curriculum, including the approach to exams, suits neurodivergent pupils. You said that it does not. Can we tailor the curriculum? If so, how?

I come back to a point that Lynne Binnie made. I have had discussions with parents who say that schools are always talking about the child’s plan—the individualised education plan. Given the increase in the number of children with additional support needs, it becomes hard to deal with those plans. It is incredibly tough to fit a number of kids’ plans into a complex school curriculum.

What can we do to make sure that the curriculum suits everybody? Instead of having a typical curriculum that neurodiverse kids are supposed to fit into, we want it to be the other way around. That is the real challenge.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

I am the MSP for East Lothian and, like Marie McNair, prior to my election as an MSP, I was 15 years a councillor—in my case, in East Lothian.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

Is that about lack of awareness, is it that people are aware of the issues but need more help, or is it a bit of both?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

There has already been some discussion about deficit—almost a neurodiversity deficit. What you say, Jill, is a really important point: neurodiversity is a benefit when it comes to what employers are selecting for and who they are selecting. That is one of the key things that has been mentioned in relation to stigma—and there is still a stigma. Neurodiversity is not a deficit. The key is to acknowledge the benefits that neurodiversity brings to a certain position. That is a really important point.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Neurodivergence

Meeting date: 10 February 2026

Paul McLennan

The RCP paper talks about a much broader cross-agency approach, which is very much needed. We are focusing on the workplace just now, and we have focused on education. The RCP paper strongly favours a cross-agency approach, so you have made a really good point.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 3 February 2026

Paul McLennan

I am cognisant of time—I will ask a question, but I cannot let the previous two questions pass without comment. Domestic abuse is an important issue for me. When I was Minister for Housing, I talked about the fund to leave and the issues around domestic abuse in relation to the Housing (Scotland) Bill that I took forward. In my time as an MSP, I have taken part in various cross-party round-table discussions and spoken on the 16 days of activism against gender-based violence.

The minister and the cabinet secretary are quite right in what they are saying. This is about misogyny and about men’s behaviour—full stop. It is a cultural thing as well. We have to recognise that. Government is doing what it needs to do, but there is a problem around the world because of increased misogyny. That is a problem for men—it impacts on women, of course, but it is a problem about men’s behaviour. I could not let the previous comments pass without saying something about that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 3 February 2026

Paul McLennan

I have one very brief supplementary, if that is okay, convener. Will information on what the review will actually look like be fed back to the committee? After all, that will be useful for our successor committee.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 3 February 2026

Paul McLennan

Thank you.