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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
That is fine. It was just a throwaway question.
You mentioned earlier that you have piloted the approach with a couple of bodies. Can you tell me a bit more about your roll-out processes and, in particular, what success looks like? How are you measuring that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
You have cited Estonia quite a lot. Some of the gender issues that you have outlined are replicated elsewhere. Just for the record, how do the stats for Scotland compare with those for other countries, such as Estonia, for computing science teachers and the general profession?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
I feel as though we could talk for hours about the systemic issues for women in such professions.
If I make the link back to teaching, an issue is the percentage of women in teaching compared with that of men. Sometimes, we will bemoan that because that brings other issues. However, are we missing a trick in not getting more teachers to teach computing science and attracting women to those roles? For other reasons, which I am not saying are right because they also play to societal bias, are we missing a trick by not just attracting teachers but attracting female teachers, because that would be one of the steps that would make that change?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
That probably goes back to the comment you just made about the different types of complaints and where the weaknesses are from a rights-based perspective.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 29 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
I just have a couple of questions. I appreciate the challenges that you have set out around developing the principles and the concept of balancing rights and making sure that it does not slip into, in effect, a hierarchy of rights, which is where many organisations have fallen foul. What, if any, international comparisons were you able to draw from when developing your principles?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
You make a fair comment. We use the term “Parliament”, and rightly so, but I am wondering where the leadership will come from. We will produce a report and I am sure that it will be a good report, but what will come out of it? Where should the leadership come from?
When we have discussed the issue with our witnesses, they have looked at their own area in a silo, in effect, and it has been quite hard to get them to step out of their particular interest and look at the entire landscape. The commissioner landscape is a fundamental part of what we are trying to make sense of. So, my question is: where will the leadership come from, or, rather, where should it come from?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
Thanks for joining us this morning, Jackson. Following on from that thread, is the public sector bold enough, culturally, to do what needs to be done, bearing in mind the vested interests that you set out in your earlier evidence?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
Oh—sorry, David. Do come in.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
I often reflect back on my previous experience. In the private sector, if somebody new came in and said, “Frankly, I think we all agree that this is a bit of a mess,” with cost overruns, as you have set out, and a burgeoning set of commissioners, they might then say—even if they did not follow it through—“I tell you what: I’m going to get rid of them all.” Then, they would listen to the squeals.
What I am asking is whether the public sector is bold enough, in any of the component parts that we are discussing—we realise that there are different bodies—to take the steps that are really required, given our broad agreement about inefficiency and, sometimes, ineffectiveness, lack of governance, lack of scrutiny and so on.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 28 May 2024
Michelle Thomson
We heard some good examples last week from Lynda Towers that fleshed out gaps in rights.
I want to pick up on something—