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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

You have led me on to my final question. In an ideal world, where would we go from here, recognising all the evidence that you have given this morning? In relation to co-design, which the convener mentioned earlier, what would you ideally like to happen to get to something that will up those scores, whereby we can all have more confidence in the FM?

I fully accept the different points that you have made about uncertainty, the complexity of this work and the role of councils. Fundamentally, do we need a continued exercise of co-design and the production of an updated FM, or are you happy for the extra work to slip under secondary legislation? If you had a choice, which approach would you choose and why?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

That is an option.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

Do you have a final comment, Jim?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

Charlie and Jim, what numbers would you give?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

I will come on to that. My question is for either Kirsty McGuire or Jim Jack. Where is the range or number of ranges that are so vast by quantum that you think that they are almost worse than useless? You have put a lot of information on the table today, but I am trying to establish where the ranges are so vast that you think, “Well, this now becomes largely meaningless.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

No, no—I am not looking for anything in particular. I am just trying to get a measure on the table. You can choose between four and five. It is not a trick question.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

I put the same question to Kirsty McGuire and Jim Jack. What do you think should happen now to move us on from where we are, in terms of co-design or secondary legislation?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

I am sure that you, like me, will welcome any costed proposals and alternatives, because we all need to own the issues that relate to the constraints on a fixed budget.

One of the things that is being discussed this week, with a helpful intervention from the Fraser of Allander Institute, is the suggested income tax rises and the effect of behavioural changes. The Fraser of Allander Institute modelling showed the different percentages and numbers that that would wipe off any tax raised, varying from £56 million to £161 million, or 30 per cent to 36 per cent, based on the proposals from the Scottish Trade Unions Congress and the Institute for Public Policy Research Scotland. I appreciate that that cannot be exact. The only time that the numbers can ever be exact is after the event; we all understand that. To what extent are you considering behavioural changes? What would mark the tipping point in a go/no-go decision for you?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

Yes. I note the urgency of the work.

I am conscious of time. My last question is about the Verity house agreement. I think that there was an expectation that there would be more meat on the bones on the fiscal framework by the end of September. Will you give us an update on that, and on the principles of how the financial flows will work with no ring fencing or direction of funding?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, and thank you for attending today. I have a further set of questions in addition to the convener’s. Part of our challenge is the breadth of what we have to cover.

You have eloquently outlined the fiscal challenges. Have you had discussions with other political parties? Thus far, have they approached you to indicate their preference for policy decisions, and, in particular, given the shortfall, which is often talked about in the chamber, have they set out their plans for their ideas of what should be cut?