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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 January 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

I have a slightly different question before I finish up. Am I correct that you are involved in the Grangemouth future industry board?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

I absolutely understand about the principles of fair work. The discussion that you suggest would be helpful because you are at the coal face and you are monitoring the existing investments. The discussion is about your suggestions for how those principles can be deepened to put the community at the heart of things.

I will turn to SNIB. As you explained, you have not made investments, but how would you, by way of your impact assessment, ensure that the community is at the heart of things? To what extent is there a conflict when, obviously, you are skiting across the top looking at a return on your investment and at your debt to equity ratios and so on? I appreciate that this is in principle, given what you said earlier.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

Tell me a bit more about your involvement. Also, what is your understanding of GFIB’s governance model?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

You have given me a lot of helpful information about what you are doing in your various phases, but I must admit that I am not any clearer on the governance model and who specifically is ultimately accountable for GFIB’s output.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

Okay. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. We have touched on some of the themes that I will ask about, in terms of the role and involvement of the local community. Last week, we had some quite compelling evidence from Grangemouth including Skinflats community council, which talked about how the community feels as though it bears the weight of providing all that gross domestic product to the Scottish economy but gets no benefit.

Derek, I think that you said—you referenced Celtic Renewables and so on—that you are already investing in local companies. In terms of your impact assessment vis-à-vis the benefits to the local community, can you talk me through the process that you use? In other words, what did you specifically do to ensure that the benefit was felt in the community? I totally appreciate that you have a wider perspective as well.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

You must have guessed what my next question was going to be, because you alluded to conditionality. I paraphrase, but the sense from the community was that a lot of the activity that was going on was well intentioned in terms of including the community and having a community focus at its heart, but that it lacked substance. What are the circumstances in which you think it would be a good idea to put some conditionality around the funds that you provide? What would that look like and where would you see that working in order to make sure that the community is at the heart of what you do?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

Do you have anything to add, David?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

I mean on the GFIB itself. Surely there is an accountable person. How is that structured from a governance point of view?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 15 March 2023

Michelle Thomson

Can I assume that you assess the outcome, as compared to initial—