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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you for the report—I enjoyed it immensely.

I am genuinely pleased that the SFC got such a clean bill of health. During my time here, I have seen the very determined and deliberate attempts that it has made, particularly around increasing communication, so I celebrate it for that.

In some respects, it is almost like the SFC got the rap for our status quo, much of which we have touched on. I note that it is hard to teach somebody something when their job depends on their not understanding it. We see basic examples of that every year, with MSPs who do not understand why there is a need for contingency in a fixed budget. To what extent is your report a function of the fiscal framework in that there is a fixed budget and limited resource borrowing powers, and there is complexity in the fiscal framework? Would you concede a bit of sympathy for the SFC’s being in the firing line and agree that other actors have very clear roles to play?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

It would be useful to understand the relative weighting in the development of a multitude of EqIAs and how you assess that all protected characteristics are recognised.

I have a final question on a completely different area—before the convener interrupts me. There was quite a spat between you and the Scottish Information Commissioner over FOI 193/2024, which was to do with James Hamilton’s report. I want to assure myself about whether there were any other lingering issues that might come back to bite Joe Griffin in the future. In the light of all the outstanding freedom of information requests, if the Scottish Information Commissioner were here, would he describe himself as content with the status of all the FOIs before you move on from the Scottish Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

I just wanted to check, before you move on and Joe Griffin comes in, for his sake, that there are no stink bombs awaiting him in the form of outstanding actions from the Scottish Information Commissioner.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

That is useful to know.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

You have not quite answered my question. Are you 100 per cent sure that you are operating within the 1992 regulations and that the Scottish Government will not be another public body that will potentially be subject to a costly legal case? It would appear that many bodies remembered about the 2010 act but forgot about the 1992 regulations.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. Picking up on Liz Smith’s question, it is helpful to hear you articulate that you have ultimate accountability for head count in the civil service. It might be an idea if that were cascaded more thoroughly through the estate. I recall having a debate in Parliament not long ago, in which other parties—including Liz’s party—were condemning the Scottish Government for head count. However, given that you have ultimate accountability in reality, that seems unfair. It might be worth cascading that knowledge throughout all the civil service and, indeed, all the political parties.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Dialogue is fantastic, but the committee will look at ultimate accountability. It sounds like that area is worthy of a future look to understand the implications of that for democratically elected ministers and in-post civil servants.

I want to move on. I have a few further questions, so please bear with me if I interrupt you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good. Thank you. What percentage, roughly, of the overall head count of the civil service are women? It will help me with my figures.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Okay. As we know, women have specific considerations, whether it is pregnancy, maternity leave or menopause and so on. In the civil service, what groups are in place to represent women’s voices in particular?