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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I hope to hear from our other three witnesses on that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23: Public Finances and the Impact of Covid-19

Meeting date: 7 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I am conscious of the time, but could I please have the last few comments from the other two panellists, if they wish to contribute to this thread?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I realise that it is a slightly different question for Dave Moxham.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

That is what I was alluding to earlier in respect of endemic structural issues in our financial system.

I am keen to ensure that, before we finish, everyone has the chance to put on the record their findings about debt. However, I am aware of the time, so you should be brief before the convener calls me to order.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I will carry on with that in a moment, but I understand that Dave Moxham wants to come in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I am sorry to interrupt you, Charandeep, but I am asking whether you disaggregate all data in all of your surveys.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I want to pick up on that before I go to Charandeep Singh. I am aware of the time. Given your experience and background, and in light of what you have said about the nature of women’s businesses, to what extent does the structural management of debt exclude gender considerations in how banking is currently run?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

Going back to the general question about structural issues, I am sure that we will be very vexed with the issue of cause and effect throughout this session of the Parliament, but, with regard to effect, we would all agree that much more needs to be done. With regard to cause, going right back to the top, there is the fact that the law was developed by men for men, and there are issues with banking regulation and with artificial intelligence embedding some of that thinking, and so on. Given that, my question to all of you is: rather than women-designed programmes, to what extent have you looked specifically at the nature of the business environment—which, post Covid, presents us all with an opportunity—as though it were entirely led by women as a way of bringing out data? Are you planning on doing any further research? Have you undertaken any research post Covid, in the light of Carolyn Currie’s data?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

I want to talk briefly about debt in small businesses, which has been talked about frequently—indeed, it was mentioned in many of the submissions. What is your sense of the debt burden for small businesses, and what are your thoughts about how they can be supported in dealing with that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, everybody. It is nice to be able to reacquaint myself with some people whom I knew previously.

I was very struck by Carolyn Currie’s comment about the disaggregation of data and how important that is. However, before I move on to ask Carolyn some questions about that, I want to ask the other representatives whether they disaggregate all the sample data by women-led businesses? That question is for everyone, bar Carolyn.