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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
I look forward to hearing more about that. I am happy for you to write to the committee, given that Al Denholm is new to his post, but I gently give you notice that I will ask exactly the same questions this time next year.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
When you are in front of us next year, will you therefore be able to provide input data and say, “We were there; now we are here”, confident in the knowledge that I will ask about it?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
Excellent.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
Thank you very much.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
Good morning. This has been a very interesting discussion, and I think that you have fairly reflected the complexity of the matter at hand. I agree with the convener that your submission is excellent.
I have a question, however. I still do not understand why we do not have a shared services centre and why we need 32 different finance directorates and human resources departments across councils. I suppose that I would throw in legal services, too.
I can understand the complexities in creating shared functions in digital and estates, Argyll and Bute being a good example, and I could also mention procurement. However, the financial element in particular is fundamentally about accounting for money in, money out. My question to both of you, therefore, is: why have you not been considering creating a shared services centre for that as a simple way of bringing about public sector reform?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
I agree. I read that bit of your submission with interest. I agree with you that, clearly, a lot of work has been done on shared services, but I am specifically asking why the finance function is replicated across 32 councils. In some respects, the work that you have done is arguably more complex than creating a shared services centre. I do not understand why that has not been considered. Even if you think that it is not within your gift to consider that, do you think that it is something that should be mandated by the Government?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
I have two points on that to finish off.
On HR, you have actually made an argument for a centralised function in that we have 32 different sets of terms and conditions, particularly where many particular role types are broadly similar. There are large global companies with a footprint in a multitude of different countries that have a shared services centre. I therefore struggle to see how on earth we cannot have that across 32 different councils.
Critically, holding the data set in one area also gives us greater insights into making improvements.
I will ask my final question, which I know that Ms Watters may want to come in on as well. If it is not something that you have considered, is it because you have not really thought about it, or should it be mandated? I will hear your last point before I bring in Ms Watters.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 20 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
Sorry to interrupt but, if it is about complexity, what specific complexities are there for a council finance director function that merits having 32 of them? I can see how, according to a framework principle, every council will have different partners and different methods of payment, but the function itself is duplicated, and I do not understand why we need 32 of them.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
Do you have any data that will allow you to say whether the expedition process being more fully realised will eventually feed into your ability to start to target the backlog? You have mentioned that some are historical cases that people are saying you need to crack on with. Have you explored that link?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 14 June 2023
Michelle Thomson
It is interesting to hear that you exercise judgment in those cases. A couple of the examples that you give do not appear to fit into the three criteria that you set out—I am not having a pop; you are clearly exercising judgment. Is it fair to say that, at this point, the criteria for expedition are still developing as you get more data on and understanding of particular issues?