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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

Does Sharon Wearing want to answer either of my questions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

My last question is on the process and the production of the financial memorandum. It has to be produced alongside the bill—that is a matter of process in the Parliament. However, it strikes me that we are talking about a very large bill. Somebody referred to colleges earlier; I imagine that there were similar issues with them. The issue is absolutely huge, and I cannot see how a financial memorandum can be produced at this point in time with any degree of accuracy whatsoever, when there are still huge questions about the requirements and the enactment.

During the earlier panel session, I asked how we as a committee will ensure that there is adequate financial scrutiny. That is our primary purpose. I got back the assurance that the resultant business cases, which would contain risk assessments, would be brought forward to us. My question to you, from the other side, is whether that will be adequate. I think that we all agree that there are significant gaps in the financial memorandum as it stands. From a financial scrutiny perspective, will the process in the financial memorandum work for something of that scale?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

Do Sarah Watters or Sharon Wearing want to add to that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

I have a quick supplementary on the pension schemes. Perhaps I do not understand the situation correctly, but I think that the existing schemes are defined benefit schemes rather than defined contribution schemes. Is that right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

I fully accept that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

Correct. I absolutely agree with you. My point is that, in getting to the detail around the financial memorandum, given that we are talking about defined benefit pensions, the liability for which will lie with whoever takes them on, getting those costed up would be a pretty big consideration. That liability consideration is a worry for every defined benefit pension scheme, so the transfer of that liability might be quite beneficial, but that is a minor point.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

I suspect that this has already been covered, but is part of your concern about getting this on the record now that, even if the power were to be subsequently changed a year down the road, it establishes a precedent that could be used for other potential disbenefits in similar trade deals, given the GDP figures that you outlined at the start of your statement?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

I appreciate what you have outlined about engagement behind the scenes and at official level. Have any discussions taken place in either of those ways about the breadth of powers and about specific examples? Can you give any more colour to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

UK Infrastructure Bank Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

It may be that this question should live with the Public Audit Committee, but have there been any discussions about how moneys that are spent by the UK Infrastructure Bank will be actively scrutinised, audited and aligned with the national performance framework, given that the Scottish Government is responsible for outcomes?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

UK Infrastructure Bank Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2022

Michelle Thomson

I highlight the issue because of the suggestions of an MOU and a representative who will consider the proactive, up-front aspirations in various areas. However, I am also thinking about the reactive scrutiny element in relation to value for public money. Those are the two sides to the coin. However, you can come back to us on that.