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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. I am aware of time, so I have just a couple of questions. First, with regard to the status of phase 1 projects, I am aware that two are at amber—destination net zero and the Scottish tourism observatory. Before I go on to another question, I want to get a sense of the current status and rationale and any further thoughts about those projects. That question goes to whoever is the most appropriate person to answer.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Finally, do you want to put anything else on the record in relation to your comment about there being no easy investment solutions? A lot of what we have seen has been exacerbated by the pandemic and, if you like, the flow of funds.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Do you have anything to add, Vicki? I know that Rob Dickson and I were focusing on capex and the inability to carry that forward, although I also know that you can carry forward revenue. Is there anything more that you want to say about investment before we move on? I am aware that time is of the essence.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Stephen and Leon, in no particular order, could you answer the same question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Is it not the case that, given the high proportion of women in tourism and hospitality already, you are already well versed in some of the flexible working practices that have now been introduced in other sectors? After all, women often have to juggle multiple elements in their lives. Would that be true?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you. Rob mentioned something about capital expenditure, which is the other area that I wanted to ask about. A comment in the minutes of STERG’s most recent meeting notes that the investment models have been challenging. You commented on the financial accountability rules and the fact that the Scottish Government cannot offer any flexibility. Is my understanding correct—that that is simply to do with the fact that the Scottish Government, according to the fiscal framework rules by which it is bound, cannot carry forward? In effect, by law, it is not in a position to offer flexibility. If that is correct, are you any further forward with that blocker around structuring investment models? That might follow on from what Rob Dickson was saying about capex.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Yes. What you have described is careful management of the limitations on that money, which, after all, cannot be carried forward. I would think that if you were running a business, as I have done, and were unable to carry forward any money—particularly capex, with all the implications that that would have—you would have to do a lot of work just to manage that kind of limitation. That is what I am trying to explore. Is that the case? Have you just got used to the fact that you will have to manage things around that limitation and will expend effort and incur expenditure in doing so?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you for that, Marc, but before we move on, do you have hard data on women-led businesses, and do you routinely disaggregate that data in any surveys? I am heartened by the warm fuzzy feeling that I am getting from you, but data is everything.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

It certainly does. Does Vicki Miller have anything to add to that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

In my old world of consultancy, I would also be adding up the hours that are spent on the toing and froing, because it seems extraordinarily inefficient. All that complexity is, in effect, a waste of public funds.

I have a daft wee question that goes back to the Scottish Fiscal Commission and the committee’s comment under point 49 that it

“accepts that there may always be a degree of ‘political spin’ about how the level of UK Government funding affects the Scottish Budget.”

You have come back and made the point that there is no difference between the totality of funding in the Scottish budget document and the Scottish Fiscal Commission one, but that the issue centres around comparison with previous years. You also make the point that the Scottish Fiscal Commission uses estimates of 2021 funding.

My simple question is: given the complexity in those late figures emerging, surely it is better to compare actuals, because the only time that a budget is accurate is when it contains actuals? Will you share some reflections on that? It seems that we are trying to spin plates—and that is not assisting our job. I would appreciate a bit more flavour on that.