Skip to main content
Loading…

Seòmar agus comataidhean

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Criathragan Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 1727 contributions

|

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

You will be aware that the committee is looking at public sector review, spending and so on, in the light of rolling back from the resource spending review. I note your three key missions, part of which will involve looking at public bodies and public sector reform. To what extent are you open to thinking ambitiously about that?

Part of my private worry is that agencies may look simply at efficiencies—although I suspect that a lot of them have been doing that for years, due to public sector constraints. We had an interesting comment that perhaps the bolder and more ambitious projects would need to be mandated by the Government. My simple question is, are you going to be able to have a level of ambition in what you look at? I appreciate that such projects have a cost in themselves and are very complex and time consuming. I do not negate that. I want to get a sense of whether it is about more than efficiencies.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Medium-term Financial Strategy, Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Policy Prospectus

Meeting date: 13 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, cabinet secretary. Thank you for joining us. One of the things that the committee discussed with the Scottish Fiscal Commission at last week’s meeting was the 14 per cent cut in capital expenditure from 2023-24 to 2028-29. I asked the SFC for clarification on the possible implications of that in relation to limiting our ability to invest. Traditionally, economists say that you should invest when your economy is not doing so well. The clear point that emerged was that capital expenditure has a direct impact on productivity. We know that there is a massive issue with productivity in the UK and, because of those limitations, there is an issue with productivity in Scotland. Have you been able to model that diminution of productivity? It does not seem to be understood that lower productivity leads to a lower tax take and that a lower tax take leads to less money being available to spend for public services. I do not know whether, behind the scenes, you or some of your officials are able to model that, because a 14 per cent cut in real terms will have a direct flow-through to the tax take available to spend on vital public services.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

My next question follows on from that. Local boards might employ individual staff under different terms and conditions. Does that inhibit flexibility when trying to move staff around? Is there not the same ease of transition because they are employed by different boards? Do you experience that when trying to attract people into your area?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

You have prompted my next question. Off the top of your head, do you have any figures to show how capital investment in the UK over, say, the past 10 years compares with that in other states?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

So any cut in the block grant has a potentially significant impact.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Is that approach even more prevalent in Scotland due to the tendency to focus on revenue because of the fixed budget?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Thanks for that clarification. Given the autonomy of all the different boards, the Centre for Sustainable Delivery was designed to stop NHS boards working as autonomous units. Is it your experience that it does that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Yes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

I went through your submission and I note that you mention deficit reduction, efficiency in delivery and distributed working. I have asked you about staff—you corrected me to say that the issue is banding—and about the number of territorial boards and the Centre for Sustainable Delivery. At the start of this inquiry, Police Scotland commented that it would not have been created had that not been mandated. Are they the sorts of things that you would expect to see mandated by central Government? Is your primary focus therefore on the areas that you have set out both in your evidence today and in your submission?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. What has been said leads on quite neatly to my questions on capital expenditure. We know that block grant funding from the UK Government is the largest component of the Scottish Government’s capital funding. The commission’s projections suggest that that funding will, in nominal terms, be cut by 14 per cent between 2023-24 and 2028-29. How will that cut affect the productive capacity of the Scottish economy?