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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

I would like to come in on another question; I have been pondering the budget aspect. I recognise that it is an exceptionally tough time for Governments across the board and that hard decisions have to be made, but there is a perception that people with protected characteristics are often viewed as low-hanging fruit. They are the last in and first out in terms of consideration for equalities. Oftentimes, specific cuts in budgets are looked at in silos in each department.

You might be aware that the committee has focused on human rights budgeting in a few evidence sessions. Could the lens be shifted from a siloed fiscal approach towards a whole-budget approach that looks at public sector equality duties through a human rights lens? Would that be achievable? If so, would it make a difference in delivery of the public sector equality duty?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

Good morning, and welcome to the sixth meeting in 2025 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have no apologies today. Our first agenda item is a decision whether to take in private item 4, which is consideration of a report by the Scottish Human Rights Commission, in private. Do we agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you. I bring in Alyia Zaheed.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

That concludes our formal business in public. I thank you all for attending.

12:22 Meeting continued in private until 12:32.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

Thank you all. Maggie Chapman will ask the next questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

We will move on to questions from Pam Gosal.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

That brings our panel to a close. I thank the witnesses for coming along and participating. We will briefly suspend while we change over our witness panels.

11:00 Meeting suspended.  

 

 

11:06 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

Our second agenda item is evidence on the operation of the public sector equality duty in Scotland. The PSED is a legal requirement for public authorities in Scotland, which, under the duty, must consider equality when carrying out their functions. The Scottish Government is making reforms to the duty, and this inquiry will be an opportunity to explore those reforms and consider how they might improve the delivery of the duty.

We will hear from two panels this morning. I welcome our first panel: Andrew Groundwater, head of human resources and organisational development at Orkney Islands Council; Martin Ingram, principal solicitor at Aberdeenshire Council; Nareen Turnbull, service director, human resources, at the City of Edinburgh Council; and Alyia Zaheed, corporate officer, equality and diversity, at East Ayrshire Council. You are all very welcome; thank you for attending.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2. Before we begin, I remind all members that rule 7.5.1 of the Parliament’s standing orders prevents members from referring to any matter in relation to which legal proceedings are active, except to the extent that is permitted by the Presiding Officer. I advise members that Sandie Peggie’s employment tribunal case against NHS Fife is considered active for the purposes of the sub judice rule and contempt of court. I have sought and received permission from the Presiding Officer on the extent to which we can explore matters related to the case today and throughout the course of our public sector equality duty inquiry. On the basis of that permission, questions on issues connected with the case are admissible, but questions on its specifics are not.

We move to questions. I will start. To what extent do you, as listed public authorities, understand the terms and aims of the public sector equality duty inquiry in Scotland? I will go to Nareen Turnbull first, please.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

Martin Ingram, would you like to come in, please?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Public Sector Equality Duty

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Karen Adam

We move on to questions from Maggie Chapman.