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Would you mind repeating those figures for me?

Thank you.

Thanks, Ran. That is helpful.

Good morning. I will stay on the issue of the real living wage. I do not know how much our witnesses can tell us about this, but I would like you to describe the challenges that you and your partners experience in meeting the commitment to pay the real living wage. What more needs to be done to support organisations to meet that commitment? Perhaps Allan Faulds could start. In the interest of time, I ask you all to be brief.

You can always come back in. Perhaps Rachel Cackett could go next. I am sorry for hesitating—I could not immediately read your name plate, because the light was shining on it.

Good morning. I will stay on remuneration. Will you talk us through the challenges that you and your partners are currently experiencing in paying the real living wage? What more can funders do to support organisations to meet their commitment?

Do you guys experience quite a lot the expectation to pay the real living wage?

Allan, I do not want to put you on the spot, but do you want to come back in?

As you said, a lot of good practice is already happening in councils, and I certainly welcome the further work that you are doing.

Thank you, convener, and good morning to the witnesses. Thank you for your time.

I get the point about inflation and the real living wage, and the challenges that they bring. Is there anything that you would like to highlight about those challenges?