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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 April 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Not to put words in your mouth, but will some courses have to be dropped, for the reasons that you mentioned?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I totally agree with what Tricia Bey said earlier. I am not sure whether the Scottish Funding Council was in at that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I have a couple of supplementaries. You said that there was a deficit in July 2024. Did that not cause anyone concern? Was it not raised as a concern?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I am finding it a bit difficult to understand how, in the previous financial year, there was no difficulty, and then someone chapped on somebody else’s door and said, “Oh, hold on—we might have made a mistake somewhere.”

Where were the checks and balances in all of this? In my former role as a councillor on an audit and risk committee, one of the basic questions that I asked every time was, “Are you convinced that you can put this in place by X date?” If the answer was yes, I could go back later and say, “Why has that not been put in place?” Why were no concerns reported back to the audit and risk committee—as I think that you called it, Ms Bey? Why were they not raised? Why was the audit and risk committee not saying, “Hold on a minute”? You have said that a large amount of savings was not going to be delivered, but what checks and balances were there when someone said, “This is the large amount of savings that we are going to deliver”? Why was someone not reporting back every month to say, “We have made X amount of savings this month, we will make X amount the next month, and this is what we are foreseeing”?

I am finding it difficult to understand that—and my apologies if I am getting it completely wrong.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

That was just a supplementary, convener. I have other questions, if I can come back in later.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You spoke about the recovery plan. Who has been involved in creating it? Have the union, staff and students been invited to give any input?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Thank you for that clarification.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I am pleased to hear that.

With regard to the 632 redundancies, I think that it was Professor Grubb who said that modules would be affected. I am sorry again if I did not quite hear it, but will any courses be affected? Will you still run the same courses in the university, albeit slightly differently?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

After what we heard in today’s first session, I have to disagree with Willie Rennie saying that the Scottish Funding Council would know exactly what is going on in institutions, because the institution itself did not seem to know what was going on.

What would happen to the University of Dundee if the £25 million had not been made available to it?