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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

My question relates to third-party capital, which you discussed with Colin Beattie, and how to attract it. Do you see the bank becoming a fund manager that individuals and companies can invest in? There are a number of funds out there that invest in small companies in the UK. Do you see the bank being the kind of body that invests in small companies in Scotland that anyone could invest in?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

What you do not want—we have seen this quite a lot in some sectors—is a company like that doing really well, then being bought over and moving somewhere else.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Yes, that is very helpful. You mentioned other development banks that have been around for longer. I would like to know what they actually achieve, as opposed to what their target rate of return is.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

What would need to happen? Would there need to be legislation?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

That is useful.

My final question is about the turnover of chief execs. Mr Denholm, you are hoping to retire at some point, and we are recruiting for somebody else. I think that you are the third chief executive, and there was an interim chief executive. That is quite a turnover in a short period. Does that concern you, Mr Watt?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I think that I am right to say that it took a while to recruit Mr Denholm. Is there a good level of interest in the job now?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

So it would not be open to the public to—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Yes.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

No, that is okay. That was really useful.

You will invest in a company, no matter what stage it is at. I think that I am right in saying that you have £10 million in the fast-growing property app firm, Utopi, and you own some shares in that. How do you anticipate getting a return on your investment in companies? There are probably different ways, but could you just tell us one of them?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Graham Simpson

You are right—the company appears to be doing very well and has won some plaudits. At some point, though, you will have a look at what your shares are worth and, if they have gone up by a certain amount, you will cash them in.