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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Good morning. Like others, I recognise the need for us to deal with issues of antisocial behaviour on public transport.

As I have not had sight of the code of conduct, can I clarify: is the intention for the code to deal only with the issue of antisocial behaviour that takes place on buses or can the sanctions also be used for young people who make use of the bus, carry out antisocial behaviour, and then get back on the bus?

Very often l hear—as I am sure that others also do—that there have been problems with antisocial behaviour in certain town centres, because young people have got a bus in, caused antisocial behaviour, and then gone back home again on the bus.

To be clear: does the sanction apply only to antisocial behaviour that takes place on or in the vicinity of the bus?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Let me unpack my question. If a person gets on the bus, takes the bus to a location and commits an act of antisocial behaviour in that location, and then gets back on a bus at some later stage, to go back home or wherever else, would that be classified as a breach of the code?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Minister, you will appreciate the difficulty that that creates for committee members. We do not know whether the removal of the card can apply to instances of antisocial behaviour away from a bus—associated not with the public transport but with the person having made use of concessionary travel. We do not know what the governance arrangements will be for the decision-making process in respect to any sanction that is to be applied, nor what threshold of evidence will be required in order to satisfy the decision maker in taking action. That makes it difficult for committee members to understand what we are expected to agree to.

In principle, I agree with the idea of being able to remove someone’s concessionary travel, but we need to be satisfied that we have worked through the practicalities and the operational assurance that is needed for “fairness, equity and inclusion”, as Young Scot described in its evidence. From what I am hearing this morning, we do not appear to be able to give that assurance.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Hold on. Does that mean that if someone uses concessionary bus travel, commits some form of antisocial behaviour nowhere near a bus and not associated with public transport, then the sanction of removing their concessionary travel could be deployed? Is that what the code of conduct would allow to happen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Okay. We do not currently know whether it could be applied in those instances.

My second point is in relation to process. Given that the decision maker will be someone within Transport Scotland, what are the intended governance arrangements around that individual in relation to their making of those decisions, and what threshold of evidence will be required in order to justify a decision?

09:30

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Thank you, convener. As the witnesses will be aware, we have had the outcome of allocation round 7. We have two projects in Scotland, including the first fixed offshore project in Scotland through that process since 2022. Adam, what is your take on the outcome of AR7?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

That is a lot of pressure on AR8 to ensure there is momentum.

My next question is for John Underhill and Simon Coop. In AR7, there are two Scottish projects—one floating and one fixed at bottom. In Scotland, we do not produce nacelles, turbine blades or towers, or floating foundations. Given that, what is the economic value of those projects to Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 20 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Simon, how do we deliver a just transition for your members off the back of something such as AR7, when two of the projects that have been committed to in AR7 are in Scotland, but operations and maintenance activity for offshore wind is much less than it is for oil and gas? How do we deliver a just transition if we do not manufacture the nacelles, blades, towers and foundations to ensure that workers in oil and gas have other jobs that they can move into?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Michael Matheson

Thanks.

09:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 6 January 2026

Michael Matheson

I want to turn to the pathway to achieving the decarbonisation of freight. In relation to that transition, the climate change plan places a large amount of focus on the decarbonisation of HGVs and vans. From personal experience, I think that steady progress is being made in the van market, but there has not been so much progress in the HGV sector. Mr Solomon, how many of the HGVs that are operating in Scotland or across the UK are electric? What does the operational pathway to the electrification of the HGV sector look like over the next 10 to 20 years?