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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You say that the addition of the medium-term financial strategy to the budget process

“has been a positive development, setting out five-year forecasts”,

and you go on to say that

“this should encourage budget planning over multiple years rather than focusing on balancing the budget one year ahead.”

Can you talk to us about that, too?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

That is an important point. Your submission also says:

“We currently do not have a role forecasting spending, other than social security payments”.

You are obviously keen to have that additional role.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I hear a sense of frustration, though, that, although you are examining that aspect, you are not able to deliver the same handle on its impact on the rest of the Scottish budget. I sympathise with you on that. You say:

“The Scottish Government has also set out scenarios for spending and funding to assess the risks faced by the Scottish Budget in future years. The Scottish Fiscal Commission does not currently have any role in assessing these scenarios and risks.”

Again, would you be keen to have such a role?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Exactly. In the autumn revisions, in particular, we have a groundhog day scenario with some of those transfers. I have said that to ministers, as you probably know. Thank you for emphasising that.

You said that the evaluation of the forecast in 2024, which was accompanied by a fiscal update, was

“judged to be a useful snapshot as the Scottish Parliament began its annual process of Budget scrutiny so we plan to publish the Fiscal Update again in August 2025.”

Can you touch on how useful that was?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I know that I speak for the committee when I say that it was very useful when you came to our business planning day in Dundee in late August last year. We went through the update, which was helpful and provided a springboard for what happened in the following weeks and months.

I will open up the session to colleagues around the table. The first member to ask questions will be the previously mentioned Craig Hoy.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Can you give us a bit more detail on which areas you are looking for more information in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

If five weeks is ideal, why not say that and put that on the record? The likelihood of getting five weeks—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

In our previous evidence session, we touched on the issue of communications and how difficult it is to get things out to a wider audience. Last week, I spoke about fiscal literacy among MSPs. We have constituency work, which, certainly for me, is about 70 to 80 per cent of my weekly workload. We then have our parliamentary duties on top of that. If people are not necessarily focused on finance, they might not have a deep grasp of the fiscal framework, frankly. Do you believe that you have a role to play there? When members are elected to the Parliament next year, I do not know how many of them will be new MSPs, but it could be 30 or 40 per cent of them or more. The SFC could perhaps play a role in the training—for want of a better word—of new members on fiscal issues.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The next item on the agenda is our annual evidence session with representatives from the Scottish Fiscal Commission on how it fulfils its functions. For this item, we are joined by a much pared down group from the Scottish Fiscal Commission: Professor Graeme Roy, the chair; and John Ireland, the chief executive. As in the previous session, we move straight to questions.

In your report that was published last March, you recommended

“that the Scottish Government publish the costs of each policy and programme supported in the Climate Change Plan and Scottish National Adaptation Plan”

and that

“spend on mitigation and adaptation be identifiable in budget documentation and outturn so that spending plans can be linked to delivered spending.”

In the months since then, what progress has been made?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Another potential risk is deterioration in relationships with partner organisations. The annual report says that the risk

“first decreased but then rose to and remained amber for the last quarter, reflecting a very challenging Budget process and changes in our Scottish Government liaison team.”