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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
But it is still a drop in the ocean. You also said in the submission that the target is to save £300 million over the next two years.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
Good morning, Mr Marks. On the issue of public sector reform, I have a few brief questions about the integrity, propriety, transparency and impartiality of the civil service. In March 2024, the First Minister announced the review of the Scottish Government’s use of mobile messaging and other non-corporate devices. In your experience as the permanent secretary, have you seen anything that has given you cause for concern about the culture and the application of communications, particularly digital communications, and the decision-making process of the Government that has flowed from that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
Had Nicola Sturgeon consulted you on whether she should retain or delete her Covid-related WhatsApp messages, what advice would you have given her?
11:00Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
In relation to impartiality, the ministerial code states:
“Ministers must not use public resources for party-political purposes.”
At any stage in your tenure, did you have concerns that the civil service may have been being brought into the political sphere in such a way?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
I will raise with you a particular example of when, it is probably safe to say, ministers might have been pushing the boundaries. It relates to a tweet from October 2022 that said that Scotland’s economy would “grow faster with independence”. That tweet is still on the Scottish Government’s website. Did you get the impression that there were grey areas and that the civil service was being pulled over the line by ministers?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
Yes, but that is 0.23 per cent again, so we are still talking about relatively small sums in relation to a very large budget.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
You have talked about the unit cost of the contingent workforce versus the full-time workforce. The data that you have released shows that the head count for the contingent workforce has fallen from 989 to 668 between March 2022 and September 2024. In a written answer that I received, we discovered that the number of senior civil servants in Scotland has increased by 500 over the same period. I presume that there is less flexibility in the contractual terms for senior civil servants. You have a policy of no compulsory redundancies, and I presume that those staff accrue significant pension benefits. It seems as though you are losing the contingent workforce through the back door but you are recruiting or promoting more mandarins in the mainstream civil service. Is that a fair way to characterise it?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
The Institute for Government identified a reservation about the UK civil service, which I think applies to Scotland, which it described as “uncontrolled grade inflation”—in other words, middle-grade staff are being promoted more rapidly than ever before. The institute fears that that may be a simple way of circumnavigating pay restraint in the civil service. Are civil servants being promoted in order to raise their salaries?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
The Scottish Government has made a virtue of there having been no strikes in the Scottish public sector, which it said was effectively a red line, but that turned out to be a green light for the unions. Has that hampered public pay negotiations in Scotland?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 18 March 2025
Craig Hoy
That has come with consequences, though. It was seen as the unions being given the whip hand, was it not?