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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 December 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

That is absolutely the most important thing.

With the value-for-money hat on, how can that be efficiently assessed? The witnesses we are going to hear from later will expect us to ask that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

I noticed that, in your report, you said that

“the Scottish Government does not have a clear strategy”

in relation to

“any UK decisions”.

It has been pretty hard recently. For example, initially, Labour MPs were not allowed to vote against the two-child cap policy—they got suspended if they did—but Labour is now scrapping it. It is hard for the Scottish Government to put a clear strategy in when things change so much, so can I push back on that point?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

It is certainly a hard one, given that PIP is changing and is now under review. Does the £770 million forecast take into consideration that other funding, such as the industrial injuries disablement benefit and the changes to employment injury assistance, will come across? Are they considered as well?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

The report discussed the need to better understand the cost of how ADP differs from PIP, such as the different approach to reviews. During our pre-budget consideration, the Scottish Government told the committee that assigning costs to individual administrative processes, such as reviews, would, in essence, be arbitrary. Do you agree with that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

I could ask a lot more questions, but I think that the convener would be on my case.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

We have touched on this a wee bit. The report recommends replacing the 20m rule with criteria relating to real-life experience. You have spoken about the living environment, the availability of public transport, the impact of exertion and whether aids are used. Can you expand a little on how you envisage that far more holistic approach working in practice?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

Thank you. You were talking about additional costs;. We hear that quite a lot—it is thrown in our face—about the introduction of short-term assistance payments. However, I see those as a welcome barrier to the cliff edge of poverty when a negative decision is challenged. What did your review find, and has it been seen as welcome and as a support of change?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

Thank you. I am glad that it is making a difference.

Can I have one final question, which is about the Timms review?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

It is very quick.

The Timms review is reviewing PIP. Have you been asked to make a contribution to that, or not yet?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Marie McNair

Edel, that was very helpful. Many thanks.