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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Okay. I will pass over to Sue Webber.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

We have heard evidence that a recall petition should close early if the 10 per cent threshold is met before the four weeks runs out. Your policy memorandum makes arguments about why that might not be appropriate. Has any of the evidence that we have taken so far changed your mind on that?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I note that the equalities impact assessment states that religion is not applicable. The parliamentary calendar works around Christian holidays, so might there be an interaction there? I am also thinking about those who are likely to be targeted with hate crimes. There have been situations in which MSPs have been targeted because of their religion, which would perhaps come into play in a recall situation.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I am talking about the 10-day limit, how an individual trigger is likely to be viewed and whether such characteristics might come into play when folk decide how to treat the trigger.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

That is what the equalities impact assessment says. I was only concerned that religion might be relevant because race has been noted as being relevant.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I was just about to ask you the question that you have just asked yourself. I am glad that you have enjoyed the evidence sessions so far—I have, too. As we have already heard, there are many concerns about the regional list element in particular, and there is a lot of conflicting evidence on what is the best way forward. I am sure that, initially, you had to weigh up those concerns. How did you come to the process for removal that is laid out in the bill?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

You keep talking about fairness and parity between the two types of member. I go back to the answer that you gave to Sue Webber—there is something interesting about the idea that we are trying to force a first-past-the-post system on to the regional list. Did you think about doing it the other way and retaining the proportionality that came through in the election? What about replacing a recalled constituency MSP with somebody on their party list?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

I want to go back to the processes that are in place at the moment. In the course of the committee’s evidence sessions, many suggestions have been made about how to handle the situation. There is the idea of a regional by-election, which we have discussed. Other witnesses have said that if recall triggers are met by a regional MSP, they should automatically be disqualified and replaced by the next person on the list. What are your thoughts on those proposals? Are you likely to consider changes to that process for stage 2?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

Currently, for regional members there is a two-step process in which people would first have to sign a recall petition and then there would be a yes or no ballot on whether to remove the member. A suggestion has been made to put those steps together into a one-step process, which would mean that electors would have the opportunity to say yes or no from the beginning. There have been suggestions that that might improve secrecy around the recall petition. If you go to sign a recall petition, everybody knows that you are going to try to remove that MSP. There is no option to turn up and support them. What are your thoughts on that proposal?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Emma Roddick

If you want to measure the strength of feeling and test what constituents want, surely we need a yes or no process. It could be that 20 per cent of constituents sign the recall petition but 40 per cent of constituents are against it.